"Underneath, lies a fundamentally human conflict, deeper than archetypes, that must be resolved on both ends: by the person who is attacked and the person who attacks. From the point of view of this conflict, they are balancing complements, and sort of the same; they have both agreed to play out on the stage of life, some aspect of this clash of incomplete truths, to challenge each other’s fundamental stance, and be transfigured by each other, to learn to see deeper unto each others' souls and learn to love the other, a little bit more, at least a little bit more."
This question was originally posted in another tribe...I agree with this point of view and raised this topic again because a friend came to me who believes she has been "attacked" in her sleep many times by a foe from a former lifetime (so she believes)...She said that she recently woke up one morning w/ bruises on her back that looked as though she had been beaten severely, bruises which took days to heal... I also said to her that she must have some unresolved issues with this individual that she has to work through and release before she can move forward...I recommended that she send love to this person and let go of any anger or hatred she may feel because of past instances between them...She feels that she has done nothing wrong to this person and has tried to send love in the past to no avail. What should she do if she has sought love, but the entity is not ready or willing to reconcile?
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Re: "psychic attacks"
Tue, November 20, 2007 - 2:10 PMmy understanding is that the world is a stage for all the possibilities to play out until they're completely exhausted....
a good example for this would be that we play out all the roles as actors in the play until we have experienced them all, every possibility imaginable, until we have resolved them and the notion of all opposites.
one would need to have belief in reincarnation with expanded vision to put this into perspective, as well owning up to responsibility for one's own actions in previous lives ... this is not easy.
usually what one would call "psychic attacks" don't just involve the psyche and if this person has physical scars in the physical so-called reality, than this has reached beyond a mere "psychic attack" .... this has become her reality in this lifetime.
your friend may want to consider sending the energy back from whence it came...but if she is not a magickal practitioner or has no experience in this area, I would definitely not recommend it, for she may end up in a worse situation...
this sounds like an extremely serious situation, and if the facts are true, sending positive or loving feelings, and letting go of anger will only go so far in correcting the situation to appease this so-called "entity" ... in my opinion, this person now needs a qualified practitioner to help her.
best to her in her quest :-)
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Wed, November 21, 2007 - 9:29 AM
adya: "usually what one would call "psychic attacks" don't just involve the psyche and if this person has physical scars in the physical so-called reality, than this has reached beyond a mere "psychic attack" .... this has become her reality in this lifetime."
Thanks Adya for your response...I agree that this has definitely become a reality for her right NOW in this lifetime...I mean, I did see the bruises and they were REAL...I didn't know what to think when she told me because after seeing them, I would imagine that she was in a fight and lost badly...Anyway, we are now working on getting a spiritual healer who can work with her...If anyone has any suggestions for someone who does this kind of work in the Los Angeles/Orange County area we would appreciate it~ -
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Wed, November 21, 2007 - 11:07 AMI would recommend a counselor or a psychologist before I'd recommend any "psychic" intervention. -
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Wed, November 21, 2007 - 12:42 PM
Mickey: "I would recommend a counselor or a psychologist before I'd recommend any 'psychic' intervention'"
why? --Based on the fact that she believes she has been spiritually "attacked" or the fact that she had bruises on her back that couldn't be substantiated or verified thru "legitimate" explaination or means?? -
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Wed, November 21, 2007 - 4:16 PMThe words "spiritually attacked" and "unexplained bruises" should be of great concern to any counselor or psychologist. At the very least, unexplained bruising can have many medical etiologies, all of which should be ruled out as possible causes. -
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Mon, November 26, 2007 - 9:23 AM
"At the very least, unexplained bruising can have many medical etiologies, all of which should be ruled out as possible causes. "
Mickey, can you please elaborate on this? why should "unexplained bruises" be ruled out by medical etiology?
According to webster's medical dictionary the word etiology refers to a branch of medical science dealing with the causes and origin of diseases. What does this have to do w/ bruising -- either psychically attained or otherwise? -
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Wed, November 28, 2007 - 5:44 AMWell, I could sit here and tell you there are no such thngs as psychic attacks, but I can predict how well that "conversation" would go.
So I will tell you that bruising could be a sign of a serious vitamin deficiency, or a blood clotting problem (pray it doesn't happen in her brain), or an iron/metabolism condition, or things along these lines, which require a different kind of attention than any defense against psychic attack.
As for the feeling of having been attacked, psychologically speaking you are probably right about an archetypal struggle, but I seriously doubt there's another party at play here. I'd be more inclined to believe the problem is 100% internal.
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Wed, November 21, 2007 - 5:24 PMI also suggest seeing a medical doctor.. what if she had seizures in her sleep or some real physical problem which does indeed impair or confuse thinking and could feel as though it were a psychic attack? Or a blood disorder which is just coming to the surface?
Please get her to a doctor.
Anbd hav eher set boundaries .. psychic ones that no one can enter.
thank you for thinking about your friend.
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Tue, August 12, 2008 - 1:14 PMAdya,
My spirit guide wants me to relay this message to you:
"Finally there is another human being that believes, "that what one believes can truly become ones reality". You are truly a blessing to this earth. Thank you for your answer. "
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Thu, August 14, 2008 - 9:28 PMSurround yourself with people who don't necessarily agree with you all the time. When it comes to health issues, you shouldn't be surrounded by "yes people." I believe it was Maslow who said, "If the only tool you have is a hammer, you'll tend to see every problem as a nail."
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Sun, November 25, 2007 - 6:08 PMLotus,
Please keep us posted as to what she has done to remedy this situation!
This is very important!
This isn't the first and it won't be the last!
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Mon, November 26, 2007 - 9:30 AM
"This isn't the first and it won't be the last!" Cathy
That's interesting...How can you be certain that this isn't her first and what makes you believe it won't be her last?
Actually, according to her, it's the first time she's been bruised, but it's not the first time she's been "attacked"
...The funny thing is she couldn't remember anything from the night before, but clearly remembers
going to sleep w/o any bruises and noticing them the next day in the shower...This is what I can't understand...I would
think she would be able to recollect some memory of physical pain or at least had a dream in which she might have been
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Wed, November 28, 2007 - 5:45 AMYes, exactly. Epilepsy might possibly explain everything. -
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Sat, December 1, 2007 - 1:57 AMwell, its been 10 days
what has happened?
I am curious. I woudl lov etohear that there hav ebeen no more of these attack episodes because this friend burned sage grass in the livign room and had a reiki session to clean the chakras, but seriously this is a serious problem adn a medical check up is important. If it is epilepsy or strokes or sleep walking and falling then the potential for more serious injury is possible.
Also a person might definitely feel liek they hav e been attacked in their sleep if they have had an epileptic seizure simply from the disorientation.
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Mon, November 26, 2007 - 7:46 PM"Underneath, lies a fundamentally human conflict, deeper than archetypes, that must be resolved on both ends: by the person who is attacked and the person who attacks. From the point of view of this conflict, they are balancing complements, and sort of the same; they have both agreed to play out on the stage of life, some aspect of this clash of incomplete truths, to challenge each other’s fundamental stance, and be transfigured by each other, to learn to see deeper unto each others' souls and learn to love the other, a little bit more, at least a little bit more."
My reply to this would be yes, this sounds like one way of stating that both the victim and the attacker play a role on a much deeper level. Perhaps in order to learn.
The way I read Lotusflower's post is that she used the bruising as an example in relation to the possible psychic attack. Yes, the body can be in a state where it bruises way too easily and it isn't felt, and if it continues, I trust that her friend will go to the doctor if needed.
The way I see it, an attack is an attack, whether it is a this-life in your face person doing the attacking, or whether it is an energetic attack. Which gets us back to the fundamentally human (or other entty) conflict that requires a resolution.
Here is my experience: What I resist, persists. If I try to run, the basic problem will ALWAYS catch up to me. When I turn and face my deepest fears, and stand up to whatever it is inside myself that keeps me from safety, I learn that I am no longer a victim. -
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Tue, November 27, 2007 - 1:32 PM>"When I turn and face my deepest fears, and stand up to whatever it is inside myself that keeps me from safety, I learn that I am no longer a victim."
that's great advice to live by :-)
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Lotusflower, your friend is very lucky to have you to be there for her during this difficult time in her life.
alike to the boat with an anchor, she needs someone to be there for her who knows she's not crazy.
may she have the strength and courage she needs to get through this ordeal.
Blessings~
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Fri, February 1, 2008 - 5:19 AMi've experience something like a psychic attack. A few times, while sleeping I would wake up and feel like I was dying. It felt like some "demon" was sitting on my chest and trying to suffocate. I was terrified. did'nt know what to do, so I said some prayers. Being brought up a catholic, usually the our father, followed by hail mary's and also to my guardian angel. It's kinda funny now that i think about it. But at the time, so real and so terrifying. But usually saying the prayers would make it stop and all would return to still, dark and quiet. I would feel calm. It has happened to me a few times over the last 5 years ish. One time, I even thought I saw the shape of a being in the corner of my room, I thought it was my guardian angel.
On reflection, over the years, I think these experiences happened at times in my life when i was feeling dominated /controlled by another. This must have also unlocked some inner fears/demons I harboured. In the end, i think it was related to my fear of death and dying, fear of letting go into the unknown and being lost in oblivion. I dunno .....I discovered i was anemic, so maybe that also contributed to it. I av not had any recently.
i think the prayers calmed my mind and helped me overcome what ever was going on but also affirmed my need for spiritual assistance in times of need. It always came. I hope this makes sense.
But i would also recommend your friend to see a doctor, acupuncturist etc for healing the physical manifestation of the dis -ease. I am only speaking from personal experience, im not qualified in any healing form but i know from reading that bruising is related to blood stagnation in chinese medicine. Also, i find i bruise more easily after white sugar/alcohol, so it could be dietary related.
But as Louise L. Hay says.....something you are doing is not good for your body. So your friend needs to get to the root of it all, be it physical, emotional, spiritual etc....
But i also believe that strengthening ones aura is very helpful too. cleansing my personal space with sage/incense, meditation, yoga, prayer, mantra etc...
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Tue, March 18, 2008 - 5:03 AM
i didn't read all the responses, but i applaud you for taking your friend seriously. i have the bipolar tag, have the western medicine women in my life, the ones in the little white coats and all, and manage my mental illness as best as possible.
yet, i also know that i have an energy that draws beings to it .. and they are mainly energies that are screaming and writhing in pain, the bloodied, the hurt, the grieving, the dead ...
put salt in each corner of the bedroom and in all corners of the house. burn some sage, or even just have some fresh in the house ... it doesn't have to be all ritualistic or anything, just let your intuition guide you into where to put it, whether to burn it or nowt. i actually feel that having a growing little pot of sage might be really beneficial for your friend in her house, rather than burning it.
have people that you and your friend trust to the nth degree ... naysayers, people who will say "this is crazy" need not apply. i saw a reiki master and dear friend who walked me through, literally and spiritually, the path that i had to take ... the scariest one where what i saw wont ever be revealed to other humans because they do not need to know it. he had me describe what i was seeing, and kept urging me to walk further, all the time reminding me gently that he was there to protect me while i ... and fuckit, im gonna say it, while i retrieved my friends father's soul (who had died in extremely gruesome and so so so sad a way) and that of his mother (her grandmother who she had never met, and who noone would or could tell her anything about), and reunited them in the after since they'd never had a chance to know each other in the here. i grasped both of their hands, we were all covered in blood, then i put his hand in hers and sent them on their way together.
before i did this with my guy, i was being extremely ... well, attacked, but it wasnt in a vengeful way, it was more in a "PAY ATTENTION TO ME!" way. many bad bad things had happened in the past, but with my friends dad, the blood that covered his body from his self inflicted wound filled my eyes ... it was terrifying, everything that is white in your eyeball, mine was a deeeeep blood red for abt 10 days. it was not conjuctivitis, or pinkeye as u guys call it, the best explanation the doctor cld come up with was that i had coughed so hard that ALL the blood vessels in my eyes popped at once. mm hmmm ... yah. but i know what it was, and i know that it is only through accepting that there are realities beyond this realm (THANK GOD!), some good some scary but all real, that your friend can begin to start healing herself. tell her also to say some kind of lil prayer or even just a general loving good night to the world before she sleeps ... asking your guides for help is one of the best ways to do the work it seems she has been called upon to do ... they will come to her in her need and protect her to the extent they can.
i wish you guys allll the best ... just by writing this as a response i feel better. this is not something i talk about with very many people precisely because of the nay sayers who disbelieve. to them, i say 'whatevs. walk a mile in my shoes and you'll give them back with great haste!!!'
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Tue, March 18, 2008 - 5:09 AM
ps. a couple of weeks ago i had the chinese symbol for 'sage' - wisdom - tattooed on my tummy, right under the boobs in the middle. i have to say, im used to pain and have a pretty high threshold (esp for tattoo needles since i have a lot of tatts), but when the guy and his needle started hitting that ribcage bone bit ... OMIGOD! there were some tears ... but it was worth it, along with that one i also had added a paw print to my spine ... in a way, all of my tattooes are my amulets ... and now i never need burn sage again, since it was burnt into me!
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Tue, March 18, 2008 - 4:26 PMwow eury, that's incredible and very brave.
namaste
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Wed, March 19, 2008 - 10:52 PM
yeah, wasnt in the bloody job description that's for sure!!!
le sigghh
sound effects help!
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but thank you ... yes, it was scary, but necessary you know?
paix,
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Sat, August 2, 2008 - 2:58 PMAttack is cleared in advance on the astral domain, thus there will be no attacks at all, ever.
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Re: "psychic attacks"
Fri, August 15, 2008 - 2:40 AMBeyond the realm of psychic attacks, I will give reason to see a regular medical doctor. I've recently heard of two cases of women waking up with bruises on their backs only to find out that they have MS. So, I would definitely get that checked out in addition to whatever else you decide to do or have done.